Between January and March 1995, I interviewed in three local primary
schools. Children in the reception classes and Years 3 and 6 were interviewed in groups of four and then individually. They were picked by their class teachers, with rather more girls than boys picked and a mixture of first-language Welsh and English speakers. There were 48 children in all: 12 each at two of the schools, and 24 at the third (the latter involving two separate sets of interviews).
I showed a brief clip from the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
which we then discussed. I tried to discover how aware the children were
of the mixture of animated cartoon and dramatic action in a clip showing
a cartoon 'hole' thrown onto a wall by an actor playing a policeman, who
then puts his hand into the hole. Suggestions ranged from 'it's a blue
balloon', 'perhaps there are curtains in front of the wall' to 'it's
petrol inside it' and it could be made of 'paper' or 'glass' or be due
to 'magic', from the four- to five-year-olds, through 'it's a rubber wall'
from one Year 3, to a confident explanation involving 'camera tricks' and
computer animation from several Year 6 pupils.
One of the latter said: 'I think the way he puts his arm through the hole is
done by computer.'
However, in one ten- to eleven-year-old group, even though one
child had ust said 'It's using acting and cartoon strips and they put it
all together...', and another 'They're using toons and stuff', three of the
four in the group a little later said that they thought the blue hole
could be made of rubber:
One of the children in Year 3, when asked what the blue hole was, said:
'Drawing, drawing. They get like a piece of paper and draw on it, and on the
other side as well... and then they can move it by strings'. Another said: 'It's
like a big magic wall and a magic circle' and another 'they just taped it on to
that... the cartoon bit on to the film' illustrating the divide in this middle
age-group between children who still seemed to accept at face value much of
what they saw on TV and those who had begun to develop a much more sophisticated understanding.
In most cases, I then showed brief clips from Animal Hospital
(a veterinary hospital documentary presented by Rolf Harris) and a situation-comedy starring Richard Briers, when I asked the groups whether the people on the
screen were acting or not, and how they could tell. It was immediately obvious
to even the youngest which ones were acting. Reasons given included ''cos
they're going like this' [pulling exaggerated expression] from a five-year-old;
'the people's laughing' [referring to canned laughter] from a seven-year-old;
'when they speak, they like stop, and think of the next word instead of just
saying it' and '[they are] talking to camera' from the Year 6s, about the documentary. The Year 3s tended to mention the use of make-up and wigs etc. more than
the other ages.
Then, using as a focus pictures of ten to fourteen well-known TV programmes
, some specifically for children and some general, the groups discussed which programmes seemed more real to them. This led to placing the pictures
on the table in order of perceived reality as decided upon by the group.
The reception groups tended to say 'That's puppets - that's not real' followed
by 'That's real people - that is real' whether it was actors or other
real people like presenters. Having said that, there was a lot of confusion
and inconsistency. Part of one exchange went as follows:
Another group of five-year-olds made these comments:
Of course, the Year 6 children looked much deeper into the question of
whether programmes seemed real. The cartoon animal adventure
serial Farthing Wood was an example of this. One group started
by saying that the picture should go at the bottom of the reality scale
because it was a cartoon and ''cos animals can't talk', but after I queried
whether it was really that straight-forward, they commented 'it's
half and half really'; '...that might be happening with the animals',
and ''Cos they really do destroy the habitats of animals, in some places.'
[In the story the original home area is destroyed, forcing the animals
to journey to a different area.] Another group commented about
Farthing Wood that 'If farmers shoot at them, some of them actually
do get shot. They don't miss all the time' in contrast with many other
cartoons when the baddies always seem to miss. A member of a Year 3
group commented 'When the animals eat each other - I think they'd do that.'
There were plenty of strong opinions on soap operas. One ten-
to eleven-year-old group agreed that Coronation Street was more realistic
than Neighbours. Most of the first language Welsh speakers
seemed to be particularly attached to Pobol y Cwm. One Year 6
group told me that it was much more realistic than other soaps because
events happened on a much more realistic time-scale. There were not
several disasters in one episode. They gave the example of the fire in
Pobol y Cwm, which affected most characters one way or another,
and was the big topic of discussion for a number of episodes over what
the children felt was a much realistic period of time than tended to be the
case in other soaps. A different Year 6 group felt that East-Enders
was more realistic than Neighbours 'because them stuff can happen'
and they felt that the character of Tricky Dicky was lifelike
because people really could be bossy and get angry. Another group of
the same age agreed, giving as one reason that 'if one actor goes away,
they don't come back with a different actor [playing the same part]', as
apparently happens in other soaps. I have not checked the truth of this
assertion. I frequently found that although many said that Neighbours
was the least realistic soap, they also enjoyed it more than most others
because it was more exciting. There was a feeling that East-Enders
was more real and honest, although not as real as Casualty.
The older children were usually very interested by themes in the soaps
such as adult relationships and whether for example, one character should
have an abortion. I have to say this was probably more obvious with the
girls, but many of the boys knew enough of the lives of the characters to
join in.
Most of the Year 6 groups were impressed also by The Bill, finding it
to be very convincing and probably as real police were. Two members of one
group even believed that in The Bill, 'some of the policemen are real'.
I followed this up:
However, another in the group said 'I think they're all acting'.
The vast majority of the Year 6 children claimed to be sceptical
about the realism of Baywatch, particularly the physical attributes
of the actors, although most watched it. One said that there were no women
with short hair in the series, and that they all had long flowing locks,
adding that they should be wearing goggles in the sea and tie their hair back.
Several girls mentioned their liking for David Hasselhof, the 'hunky' hero.
Mr Bean was a great favourite with all the ages.
Most groups accepted The News as real: 'that is a realistic one 'cos it
shows you what happened really' (Year 6). But one Year 6 group added:
One seven-year-old was rather confused:
Int: Do you think what they say on The News is true?
Group Interviews
A: ...'cos when he throws it...
L: And when he's holding it, it's all wobbly.
R: And when he throwed it at the wall, it slapped, it went, like rubber does.
S: Probably put some kind of superglue on it.
Int: So do you think he's really picking a real thing up out of the box, then?
All: No.
R: Not out of the box.
A: He's just pretending to pick something up...
R: Then when he throws it, it's a real thing then.
L: They put something on the wall.
Int: They put it on afterwards?
L: Yeah.
S: But then when he throws it then, they stop it [the camera] and probably
give him a blue rubber thing and then he throws it.
L: They stop the film and then they have, take a bit of the wall out and when
the thing sticks on, they can put their hand through.
C: [About Sooty] Mae hwn yn real.
Int: Achos mae e'n puped?
C: Hmm. [Nodding.]
L: [About Pingu, an animated penguin adventure] Dim yn real achos clai yw e.
Int: What about the stories? [i.e. are they like real life?]
L: Yeah, I think that's real, 'cos there's penguins in real life.
Int: What programme's this?
All:Noddy. [Animated models.]
Int: Who watches Noddy?
S: Me. I've got a video of it. [Others nod.]
Int: Is it about real life, or is it not?
C: Na.
H: Real life.
Int: Why do you think it's about real life?
C: Um...
Int: Don't know?
J: Because it's got a cake there.
Int: Because it's got a cake? Is it a real cake?
H: Yes, because they eat it.
C: No, they don't really eat it.
S: I will!
Int: Why don't they really eat it?
H: It is a real cake.
Int: Are these real people then?
H: No.
Int: Some of the policemen are actually real policemen in real life, do you mean?
L and S: Yeah.
S: And then they just pretend they don't know anything and stuff.
Int: What makes you think some of them are real policemen?
S: Well, everyone is quite quiet when they walk across [the police
station office] and they don't say 'Hello' to each other, 'cos they
probably don't know each other or something.
S: No, they'll say the truth sometimes, but sometimes they, you know... lie
sometimes.
K: They change... 'cos sometimes they change the story a bit... make it...
A: More interesting.
K: Yes, 'cos er... that's right - I saw the news on The Big Breakfast right,
and he said Superman was true. [Loud denials from the rest of the group.]
Grading pictures of TV programmes according to how 'real' they
seemed to one reception group
Seemed very real | Seemed very unrealistic | |
Neighbours | Power Rangers | Farthing Wood |
Blind Date | Postman Pat | |
Casualty | Noddy | |
The News | Cartoons in general | |
Emmerdale Farm | ||
Gladiators | ||
Seemed very real | Seemed very unrealistic | |||||
The News | Casualty | Mr Bean | Neighbours | Power Rangers | Rugrats | Farthing Wood |
Coronation Street | ||||||
East-Enders | ||||||
Very real | Very unrealistic | ||||||
Blue Peter | The Bill | Coronation Street | Farthing Wood | Mr Bean | Star Trek | Baywatch | East-Enders |
Blind Date | Gladiators | Home and Away | Paul Daniels' Magic Show | ||||
The News | Rugrats | Rupert | |||||
Neighbours | |||||||
Power Rangers | |||||||
Note: For some reason East-Enders ended up in the Very Unrealistic column, although in general it was held to be quite realistic.
4-5s | 7-8s | 10-11s | |
Not very often | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Some days | 5 | 4 | 6 |
Every day | 9 | 11 | 10 |
Note: Only 15 of the 16 Year 3 children were interviewed individually because one had to leave early.
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | |
4-5s | 5 | 9 | 2 | 0 |
7-8s | 4 | 4 | 6 | 1 |
10-11s | 1 | 13 | 2 | 0 |
Yes | No | |
4-5s | 2 | 14 |
7-8s | 3 | 12 |
10-11s | 6 | 10 |
Note: some children named several favourites and others only one. The numbers given in the table refer to the number of times each programme was mentioned.
Programme | Reception Age | Year 3 | Year 6 |
Cartoons | 6 | 6 | 3 |
Animations/Puppets | 5 | 0 | 0 |
Live & Kicking | 1 | 1 | 1 |
The News | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Game shows | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Art & Craft | 1 | 1 | 0 |
Blind Date | 0 | 0 | 1 |
X-Files | 0 | 0 | 2 |
Various soaps | 2 | 8 | 28 |
Baywatch | 1 | 1 | 2 |
Adventure heroes e.g. Superman, Batman, Power-Rangers | 0 | 4 | 0 |
Gladiators | 1 | 1 | 2 |
Others | 0 | 6 | 6 |
Where are the people and animals you see on TV really?
Reception Age | 7-8s | 10-11s | |
No awareness | 2 | 0 | 0 |
In the TV set | 1 (possibly 2) | 0 | 0 |
'Somewhere else' | 8 | 1 | 0 |
On a stage/in the studio | 0 | 3 | 0 |
Mention of cameras or recording etc. | 4 | 8 | 5 |
Extra details | 0 | 3 | 10 |
No reply | 0 | 1 | 1 |
Note: Some children mentioned having seen a TV programme showing how programmes are made, or knowing someone who works in TV: 2 reception age, 2 Year 3 children and 6 Year 6 children. 4 said they had seen local places or events on TV.
Would the people on TV hear you if you spoke to them?
Definitely not | Yes | Not sure | |
Reception age | 11 | 2 | 3 |
Does it really hurt when someone gets punched on TV? (i.e. in fictional drama.)
Reception age | 7-8s | 10-11s | |
Yes | 4 | 3 | 0 |
Probably | 0 | 1 | 0 |
Possibly | 4 | 2 | 0 |
Sometimes | 0 | 0 | 1 |
They really hit each other but are not really hurt | 1 | 0 | 0 |
Probably not | 0 | 1 | 0 |
No | 3 | 7 | 15 |
Unclear answer | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Question not asked | 2 | 1 | 0 |
If someone broke their arm in the story on Neighbours or Pobol y Cwm, would they have to go to a real hospital?
Reception | 7-8s | 10-11sDefinitely yes | 6 | 0 | 1 | Yes, but in some doubt | 2 | 4 | 0 | Probably not:
'It might not be really broken.' | 0 | 1 | 0 | Go to a real hospital but arm
not really broken | 0 | 1 | 0 | Possibly a real hospital
but with actors for the staff | 0 | 0 | 2 | No clear answer | 4 | 1 | 0 | Definitely no | 4 | 8 | 13 | |
This question raised all kinds of difficulties. At first, some thought I might mean an actor breaking his or her arm while filming; others seemed unsure whether I thought the character in the story might be pretending to the other characters. However, some interesting answers were given in the end and I feel that the table above reflects what they seemed to really believe. A number of children in groups and as individuals raised the subject of a recent Neighbours episode in which one female character, distracted by a spider landing on her as she set off in her car, backed into another, pregnant, woman causing her to be taken to hospital with a threatened miscarriage. The more clear-thinking and aware 10-11s were clear that this was all acted and fabricated for the cameras, but there were mixed reactions from others. Some sounded genuinely shocked by the accident, saying 'She nearly lost her baby' with apparently genuine horror, and one ten-year-old said he thought the accident might have happened while they were filming and they had decided to leave it in the episode. One 4- to 5-year-old said it was real. 'Well, I didn't see a string holding the spider up, so it must have been.' Exploring the problem further showed that some children, when asked if Casualty was real or realistic, confused this fictional hospital programme with 999, a series reconstructing actual medical emergencies, saying that the events really had happened. I could not tell if this confusion was just with the titles or went deeper.
Do you ever feel scared in case any of the bad things you see on TV happen to you?
Reception | 7-8s | 10-11sScience Fiction, insects, snakes | 0 | 2 | 2 | Ghost stories | 2 | 7 | 1 | 'Blood and guts', thrillers | 0 | 1 | 3 | Fires | 0 | 1 | 2 | Murderers, burglars | 0 | 1 | 6 | Casualty | 0 | 1 | 1 | Specific programme event | 0 | 1 (abduction of child)
| 2 (farm machinery accident and dying while asleep) | Not scared | 4 | 4 | 2 | Question not asked | 10 | 0 | 1 | |
Note: These answers were, of course, only about whatever the
children
happened to remember at the time of the interview. Some children
mentioned more than one fear, and each fear was noted separately. It is
interesting to note the tendency of Year 3 to fear ghost stories and of
Year 6 to worry about things that do really happen to people, and which
have a more direct personal impact.
Have you seen any films or programmes that you thought were scary?
Note: These were the answers given by children who had a specific
example in mind. My general impression was that, according to the children I
interviewed, most of their parents did not allow them to watch TV programmes
designed for older teenagers and adults, often using the nine o'clock
'watershed' as a guide. Reasons given for this by the interviewees included
the idea that late programmes could 'teach you bad stuff', and that they might
be 'rude' like Bottom (comedy starring Rik Mayall) or Pretty Woman
(film starring Richard Gere). However, a ten-year-old commented 'Most of the
stuff on telly isn't that bad'. Obviously some of the children are allowed to
see all kinds of videos, including some of the examples given in the table above.
Reception 7-8s 10-11s
Two 'horror videos' Gremlins Jurassic Park
Jurassic Park Edward Scissorhands The Terminator
Robocop Gremlins
Are you afraid of the Dark? (TV) Predator